p1234
10-03 12:00 PM
Did anyone notice that GCTest's only interest was to start a fight between EB2 and EB3 folks.
See how he opened up a thread and threw a match to light the fire so that everyone starts fighting amongst themselves and he did not post again in his own thread .
United we stand and divided we fall. This is true since life started and will be true until the end of time.
If that was the only intent we would let it go. He has done it the second time.
Check this thread, which moderators have closed:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21488
See how he opened up a thread and threw a match to light the fire so that everyone starts fighting amongst themselves and he did not post again in his own thread .
United we stand and divided we fall. This is true since life started and will be true until the end of time.
If that was the only intent we would let it go. He has done it the second time.
Check this thread, which moderators have closed:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21488
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kshitijnt
07-17 09:53 PM
Recapturing lost numbers is not a permanent solution. Per country limit 7% is ridiculous. We need to make sure we are not discriminated against by the per country limit. Its not my fault that someone from Europe doesnt want to come here and not so many from Africa or south america qualify for the EB visas.
Green.Tech
06-18 11:58 AM
Keep calling, folks. We are making headway. Don't quit, not now, not ever!
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jchan
04-27 09:54 PM
Yes, that is my understanding at this point based on the language . As soon as the bill goes into effect, you will need to stop working at the client site if the bill passes in its current form AND you are working as a FT employee (w-2) of a mere placement company (aka agent or desi consulting). If you are an FT employee of big consulting company then until they get waiver for you AND your current client proves that no layoffs were done at the client site in the last 180 days, you will need to stop working.
I read the text again, and found that text is under 'Sub Title A - H1B Application Requirement', does that mean the new application has to meet the requirement but existing H1B holders are allowed to work until the end of their I-94 date? It would create a turmoil to stop all H1B contractor all in a sudden.
Anyway, let's hope the professional analysis from Pappu and attorney come out early
I read the text again, and found that text is under 'Sub Title A - H1B Application Requirement', does that mean the new application has to meet the requirement but existing H1B holders are allowed to work until the end of their I-94 date? It would create a turmoil to stop all H1B contractor all in a sudden.
Anyway, let's hope the professional analysis from Pappu and attorney come out early
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wandmaker
06-06 02:26 PM
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ita
08-25 10:54 PM
Thank you very much
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anzerraja
07-20 09:40 AM
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Aman,
You are an inspiration to all of us in the IV community.
You are selfless and humble and these are amongst the most noble qualities a leader can have.
Thanks!
-S
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Aman,
You are an inspiration to all of us in the IV community.
You are selfless and humble and these are amongst the most noble qualities a leader can have.
Thanks!
-S
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desi3933
08-19 01:29 PM
Finally I am a US citizen after being 10+ years in this country. This is one of my biggest fulfillments and it means everything to me. US is just not home anymore for me, it is my country.
I wish everyone the best and hope they get GC very soon.
Proud to be an indian-american and legal immigrant.
Good Luck!
I wish everyone the best and hope they get GC very soon.
Proud to be an indian-american and legal immigrant.
Good Luck!
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dr_vroeg
06-22 03:18 PM
I'd agree to that
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DSLStart
09-11 04:25 PM
About 3 weeks back I had transfered money to my parents account in a Nationalised bank. I have been sending money to that account since a while. For the last transaction I did, I never got an email from SBI saying that the credit has been posted, but 6 days after the transaction the online status was showing that the beneficiary account has been credited. My parents enquired at their bank 3/4 times and everytime they were told that the money has not arrived from SBI. When I posted a customer care ticket, after I got reply after 2 days that the account number I had provided is incorrect. I replied them what the hell, you have transfered the money to same account earlier and how will the number change all of sudden. Then no reply for next 2 days. After asking them again about the status I was told that the beneficiary bank has moved to CORE banking so the account numbers are different now. When my parents asked about it, the bank told them that the CORE banking was completed 2 years ago and the current account number is the right number. I asked my parents to call SBI GLS customer care number in Mumbai and complain about this. The buggers from SBI called me in the middle of night (1.30 AM) and told me the same thing that the numbers are incorrect. After arguing with them for one hour in midnight, finally they agreed to their mistake. So the whole transaction took about 15 days to get the money transferred. Stupid people have given a 877 customer service number for US, but they work according to IST so the number works only till 9:00 AM EST later it just keeps ringing. SBI online service is sure working like any other Indian Govt office...
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thescadaman
01-31 02:24 PM
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StuckInTheMuck
04-30 09:05 AM
almost 1735 days away from N400.the form looks very long. is there again a long line for it?
My wait time is as long as yours, so I am not thinking about getting ready for citizenship just yet (lot can happen in 5 years). If the USCIS processing times are to be believed, they are supposed to take between 12 and 15 months to decide on a currently filed application (the server seems to be down now, so couldn't verify the latest status). There may be additional time differences depending on where you are located. And knowing how USCIS operates, backlogs are not unheard of (http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/images/File/factcheck/CitizenshipDayFactSheet09-16-08.pdf).
Here is a comforting thought - and someone correct me if I am wrong - but unlike the hectic GC process with all the "inequalities" among various EB categories, naturalization process is a level-playing field where your specific skills do not matter. Everyone is considered equal here, whether you have got your GC via EB, FB or even amnesty route. This makes sense too, considering that your value (to this country) as a citizen rests primarily in your voting right, and someone who can cook is just as good to vote as another who writes smart computer codes (no knock on the cook, my wife is a fantastic cook herself). This is why the "priority date" for your citizenship application is set at 5 years (of continuous residency) from the date printed on your PR card, irrespective of your GC category (the wait is 3 years for those with USC spouse). The only condition that permits some arbitrariness in the evaluation process is in establishing a "good moral character", which makes point #6 in my original list important.
My wait time is as long as yours, so I am not thinking about getting ready for citizenship just yet (lot can happen in 5 years). If the USCIS processing times are to be believed, they are supposed to take between 12 and 15 months to decide on a currently filed application (the server seems to be down now, so couldn't verify the latest status). There may be additional time differences depending on where you are located. And knowing how USCIS operates, backlogs are not unheard of (http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/images/File/factcheck/CitizenshipDayFactSheet09-16-08.pdf).
Here is a comforting thought - and someone correct me if I am wrong - but unlike the hectic GC process with all the "inequalities" among various EB categories, naturalization process is a level-playing field where your specific skills do not matter. Everyone is considered equal here, whether you have got your GC via EB, FB or even amnesty route. This makes sense too, considering that your value (to this country) as a citizen rests primarily in your voting right, and someone who can cook is just as good to vote as another who writes smart computer codes (no knock on the cook, my wife is a fantastic cook herself). This is why the "priority date" for your citizenship application is set at 5 years (of continuous residency) from the date printed on your PR card, irrespective of your GC category (the wait is 3 years for those with USC spouse). The only condition that permits some arbitrariness in the evaluation process is in establishing a "good moral character", which makes point #6 in my original list important.
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nk2006
02-14 08:55 AM
Ok, if advertising is too far-fetched, then hold some cultural events and make money on those. Brainstorm with members to find other ways to make money.
Organizing cultural events does sound like a good idea, but again the problem is "organizing". I volunteered in a few cultural event organizations and know that its hardwork and need many volunteers even in a small city (especially if its a fund-raising type). My understanding is state chapters are crying for members, if state chapters have enough volunteers it would be a good idea.
I think there were many brainstorming discussions on fund raising earlier on these forums. The problem with these anonymous forums are that anyone can give a suggestion and then do nothing about it (I am guilty of the same sometimes). Thats why I liked the idea of state chapters where members know each other and may be able to motivate each other to volunteer some time/money/etc.
Organizing cultural events does sound like a good idea, but again the problem is "organizing". I volunteered in a few cultural event organizations and know that its hardwork and need many volunteers even in a small city (especially if its a fund-raising type). My understanding is state chapters are crying for members, if state chapters have enough volunteers it would be a good idea.
I think there were many brainstorming discussions on fund raising earlier on these forums. The problem with these anonymous forums are that anyone can give a suggestion and then do nothing about it (I am guilty of the same sometimes). Thats why I liked the idea of state chapters where members know each other and may be able to motivate each other to volunteer some time/money/etc.
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waitforevergc
05-07 04:17 PM
hi,
not being argumentative here...IMHO..loyalty and patriotism can be interpreted differently.
You can be loyal to your family, friends, company as well as state as you mentioned.
But you can be Patriotic and loyal only to one country:)You cannot have your feet in multiple boats;)
not being argumentative here...IMHO..loyalty and patriotism can be interpreted differently.
You can be loyal to your family, friends, company as well as state as you mentioned.
But you can be Patriotic and loyal only to one country:)You cannot have your feet in multiple boats;)
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starscream
09-17 10:25 AM
as well as on the chat also please thanks
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joydiptac
05-12 11:08 PM
Nitin,
US archaic GC rules just lost a potential great immigrant to Canada.
And I agree that everyone should have a life. I suppose they have one too. They have the right to have their own opinion. Guess what? It might be that they like to hang around other Desis in the same boat that may be the reason why they come here. :D
BTW, Congratulations for your Candian PR.
n'
Joy
P.S> This immigration thing is like betting on a stock. Question is do you buy "puts" to insure your long position or not? For all you know Canda might turn out to be top dog in another decade. They have the resources, the land and a bunchof good people.
US archaic GC rules just lost a potential great immigrant to Canada.
And I agree that everyone should have a life. I suppose they have one too. They have the right to have their own opinion. Guess what? It might be that they like to hang around other Desis in the same boat that may be the reason why they come here. :D
BTW, Congratulations for your Candian PR.
n'
Joy
P.S> This immigration thing is like betting on a stock. Question is do you buy "puts" to insure your long position or not? For all you know Canda might turn out to be top dog in another decade. They have the resources, the land and a bunchof good people.
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sky7
07-26 09:38 AM
In the US for 11 years now. - 7th year H1B
Thanks for starting this topic!!! This could be an emotional thread for a lot of us who are still waiting for this rediculously long process of GC!!!!
More frustrating when:
Waited for 3++ yrs for the labor cert (PD Sept 2002)
Just submitted I140 (6/2006) but have to endure the fear that my EB2 will be kicked to EB3, which means RETROGRESSION!
With H4, wife cannot work. Going to school is too expensive..i can't afford it with my small salary
Stucked with current company...being under appreciated and under utilized by the current employer...not a place for me to build my CAREER!!!
Have potential contract jobs/independent consultant positions available (recruiters contacted me) which pay 50% than what i am making now...but can't accept those offers bcos of GC!!!!
So so tempted to return home for good (sick and tired of the WAIT), but Everyone was saying "u had waited for years now, so why not wait for another year or so to get it..don't waste the golden opportunity" But...but...is it really going to be just another YEAR? :rolleyes:
Sigh...sorry for venting...but i am really upset!
Going back to Career options...
**yeah, i would like to get a PMP cert, but it is pretty EXPENSIVE. But maybe some of us who done that can advice me.
**About buying houses....really clueless about it...really scare i will get ripped off by people..any advice?
** Yes..i want to know more about E-Visa and making $$ via online business!
Thanks all....
Sky
Thanks for starting this topic!!! This could be an emotional thread for a lot of us who are still waiting for this rediculously long process of GC!!!!
More frustrating when:
Waited for 3++ yrs for the labor cert (PD Sept 2002)
Just submitted I140 (6/2006) but have to endure the fear that my EB2 will be kicked to EB3, which means RETROGRESSION!
With H4, wife cannot work. Going to school is too expensive..i can't afford it with my small salary
Stucked with current company...being under appreciated and under utilized by the current employer...not a place for me to build my CAREER!!!
Have potential contract jobs/independent consultant positions available (recruiters contacted me) which pay 50% than what i am making now...but can't accept those offers bcos of GC!!!!
So so tempted to return home for good (sick and tired of the WAIT), but Everyone was saying "u had waited for years now, so why not wait for another year or so to get it..don't waste the golden opportunity" But...but...is it really going to be just another YEAR? :rolleyes:
Sigh...sorry for venting...but i am really upset!
Going back to Career options...
**yeah, i would like to get a PMP cert, but it is pretty EXPENSIVE. But maybe some of us who done that can advice me.
**About buying houses....really clueless about it...really scare i will get ripped off by people..any advice?
** Yes..i want to know more about E-Visa and making $$ via online business!
Thanks all....
Sky
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GotGC??
02-07 12:35 PM
If only you were born three months later...sigh!
I understand that your priority date is based on country of birth. I have read that you can use your spouse's country of birth. What if you have nationality in a country for over 20yrs but born in India. My parents emigrated to Europe when I was three months old, and I was naturalised there. The spouse rule doesn't apply to me because my wife is born in India too. Is there a rule anywhere that makes you eligibile to file under a particular quota if you had nationality in that country for a VERY long time? I was told no, so throwing this out to the group for advice. No hopes that I will hear otherwise.
Thanks to all.
I understand that your priority date is based on country of birth. I have read that you can use your spouse's country of birth. What if you have nationality in a country for over 20yrs but born in India. My parents emigrated to Europe when I was three months old, and I was naturalised there. The spouse rule doesn't apply to me because my wife is born in India too. Is there a rule anywhere that makes you eligibile to file under a particular quota if you had nationality in that country for a VERY long time? I was told no, so throwing this out to the group for advice. No hopes that I will hear otherwise.
Thanks to all.
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bigboy007
04-27 12:14 AM
Not sure about the increase in fees here is what i have seen comparing it to INA and subsections...
1. Higher wage requirements defs being added to definitions seciton in INA [Immigration and Nationality Act], Requirement of Internet posting, wage determination.
2. 90 Days being replaced as 180 days for non displacement option
3. No consulting for H1B employees based on the Recruitment (F) section.
4. SEC 102. I states if no. of employees > 50 , sum of [H1B, L(1,2)(L1A, L1 , L2 Perdef 101(a)(15)(L)))] should not exceed 50% of No. of employees. No more H1B's
5. Sec 111. mispresentation period increased to 24 months from 12 months, USCIS will conduct audits for all employers if no. of employees > 100 and no. of H1 employees > 15% , Publish publicly those reports
6. Failure to meet a condition increase from 1000 to 2000 , failure for misrepresentation increased from 5000 to 10000. Employer will be liable for employees lost wages and benefits.
7. illegal : H1B non immigrant to pay a penalty for ceasing an employment with employer before the agreed date, failure to provide common benefits health , life , disability , insurance , retirement , savings, cash/noncash bonus etc...
8. with in 90 days of enacting S887 , secretary of labor will provide website to post these positions on labor department website.
9. stream line of job classifications and roles with 1 year of enacting of S887...
10. DOL can hire 200+ employees to fill these requirements ;)
+ l1's I have not gone through....
Newer version is - as should've been expected - more protectionist than before.
1) It prohibits H1B workers from working in contract positions.There is a redundant provision for the L1 visa as well (there is already a law which does this for L1). However it doesn't prevent American companies from keeping these contract workers in India or elsewhere and co-ordinate the work through web-conferencing, video conferencing, VPN/VNC etc.
2) It increases H1B fees by another 1000 dollars. There will be the added cost of advertising on DOL website. Also, the legal costs of navigating the audits. It also enables Tort attorneys to sue the companies on behalf of labor unions such as IEEE-USA, PG, Bright Future Jobs, Zazona etc. In essence it makes the whole visa program unviable. American companies cannot participate in the visa program without letting the DOL and the Tort attorneys poking their noses in the daily functioning of Corporate America. Imagine which company will apply for H1B when you'll have ads airing on TV from Tort attorneys - 'Have you been displaced by H1B worker? Call 1-800-TORT-ATTORNEY'?
3) It has a whole gamut of so-called 'H1B/L1B worker protections'. Unless and until the complaining foreign worker's visa status/GC status is protected against employer retaliation, these provisions will remain only on paper, as foreigner workers facing the prospect of forced departure from the country will not complain - extra worker protections or not. They might as well scrap these provisions and save some trees in the process!
4) It retains the provision that H1B/L1 worker must be provided all originals for H1B, Green Card etc. However this will be moot, as there won't be many H1B/L1 workers left in the US to take the benefit. They would already have moved to their home countries, brining the salaries down in their home countries die to excess supply. This combined with technical enablers are going to make outsourcing HOT. I think it's a good time to invest in the stocks of these outsourcing companies. Their returns are going to increase exponentially in a year. I am not surprised, if these companies send a 'Thank You' note to Senators Durbin and Grassley for making such a windfall possible.
If this year only 44,000 visas were used after half a month, wait until this law passes. There will already 10,000 or less visa applications. On a short term basis wages will sky-rocket, when companies are already struggling to make the ends meet. This will definitely make the usage of technological innovations such as the ones mentioned in point 1 more appealing to the companies. In the long run Outsourcing will become cheaper and more attractive.
Faced with accute worker shortage and unreasonably high-salaries driven scarcity in an economy under recession, Companies will have only 3 options. 1) Announce bankruptcy and get out of business salvaging what they can 2) Leverage technology to do outsourcing circumventing the need for visas 3) Beg the government for another 'Stimulus' and more borrowed money from the Chinese to pay the salaries.
This will hit hard the humanitarian immigration for refugees, asylees etc. USCIS is a government department run on visa application fees. As H1B fee-base reduces US government will have to appropriate more funds to USCIS to keep these programs running. The cost of these programmes will increasingly be borne by the American tax-payer. As jobs keep getting outsourced at a much faster speed tax-base formed by these H1B/L1 workers will shift to other economies benefiting them, the government will have to increases the taxes to make up for the difference. No doubt this will increase the tax burden on an average American - even those who had nothing to do with H1B, pro- or against.
The day this law passes will be a great day for Outsourcing, and a sad day for America.
1. Higher wage requirements defs being added to definitions seciton in INA [Immigration and Nationality Act], Requirement of Internet posting, wage determination.
2. 90 Days being replaced as 180 days for non displacement option
3. No consulting for H1B employees based on the Recruitment (F) section.
4. SEC 102. I states if no. of employees > 50 , sum of [H1B, L(1,2)(L1A, L1 , L2 Perdef 101(a)(15)(L)))] should not exceed 50% of No. of employees. No more H1B's
5. Sec 111. mispresentation period increased to 24 months from 12 months, USCIS will conduct audits for all employers if no. of employees > 100 and no. of H1 employees > 15% , Publish publicly those reports
6. Failure to meet a condition increase from 1000 to 2000 , failure for misrepresentation increased from 5000 to 10000. Employer will be liable for employees lost wages and benefits.
7. illegal : H1B non immigrant to pay a penalty for ceasing an employment with employer before the agreed date, failure to provide common benefits health , life , disability , insurance , retirement , savings, cash/noncash bonus etc...
8. with in 90 days of enacting S887 , secretary of labor will provide website to post these positions on labor department website.
9. stream line of job classifications and roles with 1 year of enacting of S887...
10. DOL can hire 200+ employees to fill these requirements ;)
+ l1's I have not gone through....
Newer version is - as should've been expected - more protectionist than before.
1) It prohibits H1B workers from working in contract positions.There is a redundant provision for the L1 visa as well (there is already a law which does this for L1). However it doesn't prevent American companies from keeping these contract workers in India or elsewhere and co-ordinate the work through web-conferencing, video conferencing, VPN/VNC etc.
2) It increases H1B fees by another 1000 dollars. There will be the added cost of advertising on DOL website. Also, the legal costs of navigating the audits. It also enables Tort attorneys to sue the companies on behalf of labor unions such as IEEE-USA, PG, Bright Future Jobs, Zazona etc. In essence it makes the whole visa program unviable. American companies cannot participate in the visa program without letting the DOL and the Tort attorneys poking their noses in the daily functioning of Corporate America. Imagine which company will apply for H1B when you'll have ads airing on TV from Tort attorneys - 'Have you been displaced by H1B worker? Call 1-800-TORT-ATTORNEY'?
3) It has a whole gamut of so-called 'H1B/L1B worker protections'. Unless and until the complaining foreign worker's visa status/GC status is protected against employer retaliation, these provisions will remain only on paper, as foreigner workers facing the prospect of forced departure from the country will not complain - extra worker protections or not. They might as well scrap these provisions and save some trees in the process!
4) It retains the provision that H1B/L1 worker must be provided all originals for H1B, Green Card etc. However this will be moot, as there won't be many H1B/L1 workers left in the US to take the benefit. They would already have moved to their home countries, brining the salaries down in their home countries die to excess supply. This combined with technical enablers are going to make outsourcing HOT. I think it's a good time to invest in the stocks of these outsourcing companies. Their returns are going to increase exponentially in a year. I am not surprised, if these companies send a 'Thank You' note to Senators Durbin and Grassley for making such a windfall possible.
If this year only 44,000 visas were used after half a month, wait until this law passes. There will already 10,000 or less visa applications. On a short term basis wages will sky-rocket, when companies are already struggling to make the ends meet. This will definitely make the usage of technological innovations such as the ones mentioned in point 1 more appealing to the companies. In the long run Outsourcing will become cheaper and more attractive.
Faced with accute worker shortage and unreasonably high-salaries driven scarcity in an economy under recession, Companies will have only 3 options. 1) Announce bankruptcy and get out of business salvaging what they can 2) Leverage technology to do outsourcing circumventing the need for visas 3) Beg the government for another 'Stimulus' and more borrowed money from the Chinese to pay the salaries.
This will hit hard the humanitarian immigration for refugees, asylees etc. USCIS is a government department run on visa application fees. As H1B fee-base reduces US government will have to appropriate more funds to USCIS to keep these programs running. The cost of these programmes will increasingly be borne by the American tax-payer. As jobs keep getting outsourced at a much faster speed tax-base formed by these H1B/L1 workers will shift to other economies benefiting them, the government will have to increases the taxes to make up for the difference. No doubt this will increase the tax burden on an average American - even those who had nothing to do with H1B, pro- or against.
The day this law passes will be a great day for Outsourcing, and a sad day for America.
paskal
05-23 03:48 PM
Do what you got to do and let others do what they think is right. I don't think there is one Success mantra here...because we are yet to be successful.
Honestly, I agree with you...but the underlying fact is some people get motivated for calling the senators and some for anonymous fax/email/flowers and some for rallies. There is definitely a subset who does all...but unless you are a Gandhi/MLK/JFK/Mandela....it's hard to drive people in one route.
Just a thought...
one of the reasons we have not succeeded is precisely because folks want to use their own "intellect" and not do what "IV" needs when it really needs you.
we do all of the above and more. if you like something more than the other that's perfectly fine and dandy. but if we can't collect a critical mass for an action, we lose effectiveness and shoot ourselves in the foot.
in a group this large you simply have to help the commom action and agenda for success. each opinion is important but at the end of the day the common action must be done by all, as far as possible.
Honestly, I agree with you...but the underlying fact is some people get motivated for calling the senators and some for anonymous fax/email/flowers and some for rallies. There is definitely a subset who does all...but unless you are a Gandhi/MLK/JFK/Mandela....it's hard to drive people in one route.
Just a thought...
one of the reasons we have not succeeded is precisely because folks want to use their own "intellect" and not do what "IV" needs when it really needs you.
we do all of the above and more. if you like something more than the other that's perfectly fine and dandy. but if we can't collect a critical mass for an action, we lose effectiveness and shoot ourselves in the foot.
in a group this large you simply have to help the commom action and agenda for success. each opinion is important but at the end of the day the common action must be done by all, as far as possible.
desi3933
03-22 11:26 AM
I was referring to "AC21 Memo" not the "AC21 law".
I agree with your statement that AC21 is a law.
ok, probably you meant memos issued by USCIS for AC-21 implementation.
Would you please explain what you meant by "real memo" when you wrote
AC21 memo is a real memo
I am not aware that there multiple kinds of memos.
I agree with your statement that AC21 is a law.
ok, probably you meant memos issued by USCIS for AC-21 implementation.
Would you please explain what you meant by "real memo" when you wrote
AC21 memo is a real memo
I am not aware that there multiple kinds of memos.